Thieu's Political Prisoners

The Antiwar Movement's Campaign 

to Free Thieu's Political Prisoners


Political repression was a characteristic of the governments that the US sponsored in South Vietnam because of their limited popular support and the active role in the civilian population of the National Liberation Front and Third Force advocates of democracy.

This webinar will focus on the plight of political prisoners during the regime of Nguyen Van Thieu  from 1967 until 1975.   Because of US funding for the Saigon government, the issue became a driving force in the latter years of the antiwar movement, especially after the Paris Peace Agreement ended direct US combat. 

Estimates of the number of political prisoners in Thieu's jails vary widely. The Saigon government announced in July that it held 4321 political prisoners, a figure Newsweek magazine called "unconvincing." A few days later, a group of South Vietnamese students and clerics issued a statement claiming that the government held about 202,000 political prisoners.

Amnesty International, a widely respected humanitarian group based in London, estimates that Thieu holds about 100,000 civilians, a figure that presumably includes some criminals as well as political prisoners....

political imprisonment is not reserved for supporters of the National Liberation Front. The best known political prisoners are not communists, but neutralists, pacifists, or other opponents of Thieu. According to some observers, in fact, it's precisely non-communist and even non-political people that the Saigon government is most interested in imprisoning. ...

Conditions in Thieu's prisons are controversial. Thieu's government claims the prisons are humane "re-education centers," but it generally refuses to let journalists visit them freely. Former prisoners and letters smuggled out of prisons tell of a lack of food, frequent beatings, and torture of all varieties, with the the most popular apparently applying electric shocks to men's and women's genitals, subjecting prisoners to blazing lamps, sticking pins through their fingers, forcing bottles and other objects up women's vaginas, and forcing people to swallow large quantities of clear or soapy water and then jumping up and down on their stomachs.

By Seth M. KupferbergHarvard Crimson, October 10, 1973  https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1973/10/10/thieus-prisons-some-pows-cant-go/




Speakers  

Brewster Rhoads,  moderator, Indochina Peace Campaign

Don Luce, Indochina Mobile Education Project by video

Jane Griffith, Vietnam Director,  American Friends Service Committee

Jean Pierre Debris, political prisoner in Saigon

Jerry Elmer, Tiger Cage Vigil and Fast, US Capitol

 

1968-1970

Math teacher in DANANG (South Viet Nam) French lycée for the French foreign ministry.

 

July 25th 1970 - December 29th 1972

Political prisoner at CHI HOA prison in Saigon after demonstrating against the war. 4 years condemnation by military tribunal.

 

1973 - May 15th 1975:

Guest of the American anti-war movement:

·         Amnesty International (Joan Baez)

·         Minneapolis organization to free the political prisoners in South Viet Nam (as required by the Paris Peace agreement).

·         Indochina Peace Campaign (Tom Hayden/Jane Fonda/Dan Ellsberg/Leonard Weinglass in Los Angeles)

·         Indochina Mobile Education Project/ Indochina Resource Center (Fred Branfman/Don Luce/Sally Benson in Washington DC)

·         AFSC/Quakers (John McAulif/Philadelphia)

·         Cora/Peter Weiss (New York)

With their help, I directly confronted in Congress former POW John McCain, Secretary of state Kissinger and general Abrams, commander chief of the US Army in South VietNam, and also, ex Nixon general Attorney, Elliot Richardson, at the Smithsonian Institution.

 

1979

Married with Kim Hoa in Hanoi (who, incidentally, while living in Quan thank street, was actually bombed at that time in 1967 by John Mc Cain.

Author of the book: We accuse, 1973 (in French, English, Japanese, German, Italian...)


Jerry Elmer was a Vietnam-era peace activist who publicly refused to register for the draft when he turned 18 in August 1969.  During the 15 months after he graduated from high school, he publicly destroyed draft files at 14 local draft boards in three cities.  Jerry worked for the American Friends Service Committee from 1972 to 1987.  In 1987, he left AFSC to attend law school; as a result of his anti-war activity, Jerry was the only convicted felon in Harvard Law School’s graduating class of 1990.  From June 24, 1974 to August 24, 1974, Jerry was one of the coordinators of the Tiger Cage Vigil and Fast on the steps of the U.S. Capitol; the project was sponsored by a coalition of 16 national peace groups including AFSC.  His first book, Felon for Peace: The Memoir of a Vietnam-Era Draft Resister, was published in 2005 in the United States by Vanderbilt University Press and in Vietnam (in Vietnamese translation) by Thế Giá»›i Publishing House.  The Vietnamese edition includes an introduction by Professor DÆ°Æ¡ng Trung Quốc, then a member of Vietnam's National Assembly.


From  1970 to 1973, Jane Barton Griffith was the co-director of the American Friends (Quaker)

 Service Committee’s humanitarian projects in South Vietnam which included  a Rehabilitation Center

where Vietnamese were trained to make prosthesis for war-injured Vietnamese civilians. As a pacifist

 organization located in a fierce combat zone, the Center treated injured people from both sides of the

 conflict. The program included medical visits to prisoners, and in 1973 Jane secretly photographed political

prisoners, mostly women, who had been severely tortured. When Jane returned from Vietnam,

Amnesty International sponsored her on a speaking tour in the US and Europe and her photographs

were widely published nationally and internationally. Jane continued to work in the US for AFSC

Northern California office.

 

Jane’s later career included directing historic restoration projects and working for international

nonprofit agencies.  She served as the Chief Curator and Restoration Officer of the US Treasury

and Department of Justice, and an advisor to the White House on restoration.  She was awarded

a Presidential Design medal by President William Clinton, and was appointed by the governor

of New Jersey, Christie Todd Whitman,  as director of historic buildings including the

State House and Governor’s Mansion.

 

Jane has also held positions at the World Wildlife Fund, National Gallery of Art, National Trust for

Historic Preservation, UNICEF, and the Center for International Policy, as well as the Asian Art Museum in

Stockholm, Sweden. Jane was asked to create a national nonprofit for autism, now called Autism Speaks.

She has traveled to more than fifty countries.

           

She is the author of numerous articles, museum catalogues, and three books two cookbooks,

The Berkshire Cookbook and Knead It and large format art book, Shibori, about  Japanese textiles

which has been in continuous print since 1983 with a total of 25,000 copies to date. Harmony Books

contracted with Jane for background research in Vietnam for Francis FitzGerald’s Introduction to

the English translation of Last Night I Dreamed of Peace: Diary of Dang Thuy Tram, and to write

330 footnotes for the diary.

 

Jane’s memoir, called For Get Me Not, about a close Vietnamese friend will be released in March 2025

 


 


Carter and Indochina At Home and Abroad

 President Carter's Indochina Record

 Tuesday, January 7,  11 a.m. ET


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A webinar to review and reflect on policies and actions by President Carter affecting Viet Nam and Cambodia and those who opposed the war.


With veterans, exiles and draft resistors

* Barry Lynn, religious and legal activist

* Jack Colhoun, leader of US war resisters in Canada


With Viet Nam and Cambodia

*  Elizabeth Becker, journalist and author

*  Nayan Chanda, journalist and author


Special guests

* Ambassador Thach Nguyen

* Professor Kenton Clymer

* Representative Elizabeth Holtzman


Elizabeth Becker is an award-winning American journalist and author, most recently of  You Don’t Belong Here: How Three Women Rewrote the Story of War which won the 2022 Sperber Book Prize and Harvard’s Goldsmith Book Prize. Foreign Affairs named it the military book of the year.

 An expert on Cambodia, she interviewed Pol Pot while he was in power and later was an expert witness at the international war crimes tribunal of the senior Khmer Rouge leaders. Her history When The War Was Over: Cambodia and the Khmer Rouge is now a classic and won accolades from the Robert F. Kennedy book award. She is the author of America’s Vietnam War: A Narrative History for young adults.

 Her 2013 book “OVERBOOKED: The Exploding Business of Travel and Tourism” was an Amazon book of the year and was hailed by Arthur Former as "required reading" about the future of global tourism. In 2019 Conde Nast Traveler named Becker one of the people who has changed how the world travels.

 Becker covered international affairs for over four decades, beginning as a war correspondent in Cambodia for the Washington Post,  as Senior Foreign Editor at National Public Radio and as a New York Times correspondent.  She was part of the Times’ team that won a Pulitzer Prize for coverage of 9/11. She won two DuPont Columbia awards for NPR coverage of the Rwanda genocide and South Africa’s first democratic election. She has reported from around the world including foreign postings in Phnom Penh and Paris.

She was a fellow at Harvard's Shorenstein Center, holds a degree from the University of Washington and studied language at the Kendriya Hindi Sansthaan in Agra, India. She is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and the board of the Oxfam America Advocacy Fund.

 www.elizabethbecker.com



Nayan Chanda, is Associate Professor of International Relations at Ashoka University.

He began his career as a lecturer in History at North Bengal University and later conducted research on contemporary Indochina in Jadavpur University and University of Paris. His deepening interest in contemporary history led him to wartime Saigon as the bureau chief of the Hong Kong-based magazine the Far Eastern Economic Review and report on the fall of Saigon in 1975. After two decades as its correspondent based in Hong Kong and Washington DC he was appointed editor of the magazine - the only Asian editor in its half century.

Prior to his editorship of the magazine Chanda was a Senior Fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington DC and also served as editor of the Asian Wall Street Journal Weekly. In 2001  Chanda was appointed Director of Publications at the Yale Center for  the Study of Globalization at Yale University. In 2002 he founded YaleGlobal Online and edited the online journal until 2015.

Chanda is the author of Bound Together: How Traders, Preachers, Adventurers and Warriors Shaped Globalization  (Yale ,2007) and  Brother Enemy: the War After the War (Harcourt, 1986). Bound Together has  been translated in eight languages. Chanda has co-edited and contributed chapters  to over a dozen books including Encyclopedia of Global Studies (2012). His most recent co-authored publication is The Future of East Asia (Palgrave/Macmillan, 2018). Recently Chanda has published his first children's book Around the World With a Chilli, (Pratham Books, 2016).

He has been published in the New York Times, Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, the Diplomat and other international newspapers. He writes  regular columns for Times of India,  and Global Asia.  He is a founding member of the editorial board of Global Asia and  New Global Studies journal and of the Sage Encyclopedia of Global Studies. He has served as  a member of the Abe Fellowship Committee and Shorenstein award committee.

Chanda did his BA (Hons in History) from Presidency College, Kolkata and obtained a First Class Master's degree in History from Jadavpur University, winning the University Gold Medal. Nayan Chanda is the winner of the 2005 Shorenstein Award for Journalism presented for lifetime achievement.



Barry W. Lynn is a minister in the United Church of Christ and an attorney with membership in the Supreme Court bar.  During the traumatic end of the war in Vietnam and employed by the UCC, he became a Board member and key legislative contact for the National Coalition For Universal Unconditional Amnesty.  He went on to work for a major change in the military discharge system for veterans with other than honorable discharges with Senators Ed Brooke and James Abourezk, a group ignored by President Carter during his "pardon" actions.   Following his work on amnesty he fought reinstatement of registration for the draft which resulted in a narrow defeat in Congress but the prosecution of only 18 men who refused to register notwithstanding threats of massive prosecutions. He worked for the ACLU on censorship matters including destroying the Reagan era Meese Commission on Pornography and battling efforts to close the Palestine Information Office.  He then worked for 25 years as Executive Director of Americans United For Separation of Church and State opposing homophobic and bigoted Christian Nationalists.

Lynn is the author of 3 books:  Piety and Politics. God and Government, and a trilogy memoir Paid To Piss People Off which Ron Kovic, author of Born On The Fourth of July, calls "an unforgettable portrait of a generation in turmoil...told with wit, honesty and grace".


Jack Colhoun, an antiwar Army deserter, was an editor of AMEX-Canada, the magazine of U.S. war resisters in Canada in 1971-1977. He appears in both Vietnam: Canada’s Shadow War and Hell No, We Won’t Go! He was Washington correspondent for the (New York) Guardian newsweekly in 1978-1992.  Jack Colhoun is the author of “Gangsterismo” a study of the CIA and organized crime efforts to destabilize Cuba available through OR Books.




Resource

"Bring 'Em Home" by Pete Seeger    https://youtu.be/LYfUlGORKkw


The Path to US-Viet Nam Normalization

 

 From Deadly Enemies to Comprehensive Strategic Partners

The Twenty Year Transformation of US-Viet Nam Relations

Potential Implications for US-Cuba Relations

 

Programa del evento XXI Edición de la Serie de Conversaciones

“Cuba en la Política Exterior de Estados Unidos de América”.

El Centro de Investigaciones de Política Internacional (CIPI)

 con el coauspicio del Instituto Superior de Relaciones Internacionales (ISRI)

Hotel Nacional, Havana, December 17-19, 2024

 

Our two countries' partnership is guided by very simple but powerful principles.  The United States supports a strong independent prosperous and resilient Viet Nam and we respect each other's sovereignty, territorial integrity and political systems.  Together we are achieving ambitious goals. that will bring prosperity to both of our peoples now and long into the future.

--Ambassador to Viet Nam Marc Knapper at the US Institute of Peace, October 10, 2024[1]


Major Alison Thomas and the OSS Deer Team.  Ho Chi Minh to his left.  Võ Nguyên Giáp to his right.



Relations between the US and revolutionary Viet Nam began on a positive note in the closing days of World War II.  The Deer Team of the Office of Strategic Services led by Major Alison Thomas parachuted in to the base in Tan Trao to collaborate with Ho Chi Minh and Võ Nguyên Giáp.  Their initial mission was the rescue of US pilots whose planes were damaged while on anti-Japanese bombing runs in China.  The strategic purpose was to provide supplies and equipment to enable the Viet Minh to interfere militarily with transfer of Japanese troops from occupation duties in Viet Nam to China and ultimately to the defense of Japan.  In effect the US provided the first foreign military training and assistance to Ho Chi Minh and an OSS medic may have saved Ho’s life from malaria.[2]  (The Vietnamese credit his recovery to traditional medicine/herbs provided by an ethnic minority person.[3])

                                                                                                                                                                       Japan’s surrender led to the OSS following Ho into Ha Noi where Archimedes Patti, another OSS operative, also connected with him.  Reflecting the comradely relationship, Viet Nam’s Declaration of Independence of September 2, 1945, incorporates famous language from the US Declaration.

 

Ho wrote several letters to President Truman, and sent messages through Deer Team members, as recounted during their return to Viet Nam that my organization hosted in 1995 with support from the Ford Foundation.  Ho sought a relationship with the US that would preclude the return of French colonialism.  Unfortunately President Franklin Roosevelt who opposed the restoration of colonialism had died.  President Truman gave priority to strengthening Charles de Gaulle against the French Communist Party.  This led the US to side with France, eventually funding 80% of its failed war.

 

France’s defeat was ratified in the Geneva Agreement of July 1954.  The US refused to sign and sought to make the temporary division of the country permanent by supporting an anti-communist South Vietnam led by Ngô Đình Diệm.  He and the US rejected the treaty mandated reunification election of 1956.   Diệm’s effort to eliminate southern supporters of the Viet Minh created an escalating conflict with the north and growing US intervention with advisors and military aid under Presidents Eisenhower and Kennedy and large scale ground battles and air war under Presidents Johnson and Nixon. 

 

The consequence of thirty years of US political, economic, intelligence and military intervention was the death of 58,000 US soldiers, an estimated two to three million south and north Vietnamese civilians and military, and as many Lao and Cambodians if one includes the devastation of the Khmer Rouge whose victory can be attributed to the Nixon-Kissinger expansion of the war.  The civil and economic infrastructure and rural life were devastated with still enduring environmental and health consequences from land mines, unexploded ordnance and defoliants such as Agent Orange.  Centuries old rural communities were destroyed to dry up the sea in which the guerilla fish swam, a methodology the US learned from Spanish strategy in Cuba.

 

US intervention came to a disastrous end on April 30, 1975.  The collapse of the US client state began a mass outpouring of refugees, eventually totaling 1.3 million.  By chance, I witnessed the other side of history, arriving in Ha Noi for the first time on that day as a representative of the American Friends Service Committee, the Quaker peace and humanitarian organization.

 

The failure of the US must be attributed primarily to historical righteousness, political determination and military capability of the Vietnamese as well as the weapons and propaganda support they received from Russia and China.  An important factor was the restraining influence of US public opinion, the disillusion of elites in universities and the media. and the collapse of military morale.   The mobilization of opposition by a broad and diverse antiwar movement was both a reflection and motivation of social change, including a decisive grass roots campaign to press Congress to restrict US bombing and military aid to Cambodia and South Viet Nam

 

Refusal to recognize the weakness of its Saigon allies led to an infamous emergency withdrawal by the US. The government was traumatized by the first US loss of a war and the damage to its international prestige.   A generation of American military and political leaders and diplomats had invested years of their lives and formed friendships with people who died, became refugees or were imprisoned in reeducation camps.   The US evacuated 125,000 Vietnamese in the first year. but that population grew substantially as transit camps in Asia were emptied and special arrangements were made for American fathered children and for families of men released from reeducation camps. [4]“roughly doubling in both the 1980s and 1990s, to 988,000 by 2000.”  The continuing flow of boat people and repression of Saigon military and government officials moved US public opinion from being antiwar and pro humanitarian assistance to indifferent if not hostile.   The negative personal experiences of the losing side were widely diffused to the churches and civic organizations that sponsored refugees, many previously involved in the peace movement.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         

While a fringe group of US military, and presumably US intelligence, harbored fantasies of reversing the loss, there was broader sentiment to punish the Vietnamese for winning.  The Ford Administration immediately extended a rigorous embargo from the north to the whole country.   It opposed Viet Nam’s membership in the United Nations but it was achieved in September 1977 under the Carter Administration.  (Since then Viet Nam has been elected twice to a seat on the Security Council.)

 

The Carter Administration initially moved to open the door with Viet Nam but then backed away.  A commission led by former UAW President Leonard Woodcock visited Vietnam and Laos in March 1977.  Their goal was to obtain information on US Missing in Action (MIAs) and to explore normalization of relations.  Vietnamese insistence that normalization required $3.3 billion of US reconstruction aid as promised in the Peace Agreement was unacceptable to the US., characterizing it falsely as war reparations.  The Vietnamese came to regret their position and were looking for a way out of this box but that was frozen when my friend David Truong was arrested on inflated espionage charges.  Viet Nam’s first ambassador to the UN,  Đinh Bá Thi, was labeled as an unindicted co-conspirator and expelled.  Then Foreign Minister Nguyen Co Thach removed the aid linkage in successful normalization discussions with Richard Holbrooke in New York in September 1978.  However the Carter Administration backed away from the deal because of the influence of National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski.  He saw Viet Nam through the lens of normalization with China as part of his strategy against the Soviet Union.

 

We witnessed renewed but indirect US-Vietnamese military confrontation in the Third Indochina War.   Viet Nam suffered horrific border attacks by Cambodia’s ultra left Khmer Rouge (KR), a close ideological and military ally with Viet Nam’s age-old nemesis China.  After Viet Nam invaded, the KR quickly retreated toward the Thai border.  China punished Viet Nam by a month long failed but very destructive cross border invasion in February-March 1979. The US and its allies in Southeast Asia in effect supported the KR against Viet Nam, enabling it to hold on to Cambodia’s seat in the UN and providing military aid, ostensibly to Royalists and Republicans (the non-communist opposition) during the Reagan and Bush Administrations.       

 

The traditional peace churches (Quakers, Mennonites, National Council of Churches) and a network of former activists that had provided humanitarian aid during the war renewed assistance with contributions of food and medical supplies by 1977, including in larger scale to post-KR Cambodia, and pressed for normalization of relations.  The still interested remnants of the antiwar movement waged a fruitless campaign despite some support in Congress to unseat the Khmer Rouge from the UN.   

 

I reported in substantial detail the ground-breaking atmosphere-creating role of US non-governmental organizations (NGOs), Viet Nam veterans, foundations, universities and businesses in a 2022 paper for the US Institute of Peace “Reconciliation Between Peace and Normalization, 1975-1995”.[5]   In addition to the substantive value of aid and educational exchanges, the growing presence created trust and understanding that Americans were more than invaders and destroyers and Vietnamese were more than revolutionary terrorists.   From 1986  to 1992  there were 70 to 100 NGOs operating in Vietnam providing $20 to $30 million annual assistance.   In 1990 the first US NGO, the Mennonite Central Committee, was able to open an office with staff in Ha Noi.  By 1994, the year before normalization, 210 international NGOs, largely American, had authorized programs in Vietnam, sometimes with in-country staff.  We held ten international NGO conferences beginning in 1989 with the last two in the region, 1999 in Cambodia and 2001 in Laos.  They increased the benefit of the NGO contribution and opened doors for new organizations to work in Indochina. They also provided the first opportunities for people from Indochina to talk about dangerous war legacy problems of land mines, unexploded ordnance and Agent Orange.  Indispensable pioneering support was provided by the Christopher Reynolds and Ford Foundations, both of which later funded programs for US-Cuba normalization.

 

We brought many of the practitioners from both countries together in 2020 for a two part binational zoom described in the appendix “Normalization of Viet Nam - US Relations, Reflections from the Ground Up:  The Contribution of NGOs and Peoples Organizations from 1975 to 1995”  available on our youtube channel.[6] 

 

At the official level cooperative gestures were also undertaken. Ha Noi authorized the joint excavation of a B-52 crash site in 1985, and returned some remains between 1985 and 1987.

 

In 1987 President Reagan appointed retired chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General John Vessey as a special emissary to Vietnam on the question of American service personnel missing from the Vietnam War.

 

There were three preconditions for normalization of US Viet Nam relations. 

 

The US required the end of Viet Nam’s occupation of Cambodia and the fullest possible accounting of remains of 2,646 Missing in Action (MIAs).  The right wing in the US had fostered the myth that Viet Nam still held living US prisoners of war.  However for most US leaders, the real issue was locating and retrieving military remains, largely of airmen who died in combat.  

 

The Vietnamese had again linked provision of reconstruction aid to cooperation on MIA remains.  

 

Notable is that the US made no demands about Viet Nam’s governance or sovereignty despite ideological disagreement about democracy and human rights and lingering hostility toward the victors.

 

The moral dimension of Vietnam’s precondition was resolved symbolically during discussions between General Vessey and Foreign Minister Nguyen Co Thach in 1987.  The linkage was acknowledged between two humanitarian issues, MIAs and aid.  The method of addressing the latter was US government support for symbolic private assistance through more mainstream US NGOs that had no previous post war role. 

 

The living POW story was effectively discredited by hearings in 1991 and 1992 of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs led by two pro-engagement US veterans John Kerry and John McCain who overcame the objections of Senator Bob Smith, an anti-normalization veteran.  (Kerry was also able in 1992 during the Bush Administration to generate Fulbright fellowships for Vietnamese students an unprecedented three years before normalization, administered by the Institute of International Education.)

 

The Third Indochina War ended with the Paris Conference on Cambodia and a Peace Agreement in October 1991    Viet Nam had withdrawn the last of its forces by September 1989 and the US ended its support for the KR in July 1990.  

 

In effect Viet Nam was prepared to take the risk of giving up the special relationship achieved with Cambodia at a heavy cost in military casualties and national expenditures in order to obtain economic and diplomatic normalization with the US.   (There was a later cost as Cambodia, despite China’s long support for the Khmer Rouge, accepted substantial Chinese investment and opposed cooperation by the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, ASEAN, against Beijing’s aggression in the South China Sea.)

 

An important factor in Viet Nam’s reconciliation with the US was the Sixth Party Congress in 1986 that approved the policy of Đổi Mới (renovation), to “transition Vietnam from a command economy to a socialist-oriented market economy” …  “eliminating the centralized bureaucratic subsidy mechanism, shifting to a multi-sector economy, operating according to the market mechanism with State management.” [7]  Facing pockets of famine and seeking to guarantee regime survival, under the leadership of veterans of the war in the south, General Secretary Nguyen Van Linh (1986-1991)[8] and Prime Minister Võ Văn Kiệt (1991-1997)[9] , Viet Nam broke the stranglehold of Soviet tutelage and ideology.  The country overcame 700% inflation with “the average GDP growth rate accelerating to approximately 6.5 percent per year from 1990 until the Asian Financial Crisis of 1997”.  Viet Nam quickly moved from rice shortages to substantial exports.

 

An intrinsic part of Đổi Mới was the decision that Viet Nam’s national interests were best served by avoiding economic and political dependence on a single powerful friend.  Normal relations with China were reestablished and were initiated with Western Europe, Japan, Australia and the U.S.  President Bush was moving in that direction, but former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger threw a fit, appropriately enough for a Chinese audience, in Hong Kong. 

 

A year after taking office, in February 1994, President Clinton (who had opposed the war as a student) ended the embargo and the next year normalized diplomatic relations.  He was politically enabled/pressured by Senators Kerry and McCaine.  Among their actions was a sixty-two to thirty-eight bipartisan Senate vote urging the end of the embargo adopted in January 1994.  1995 witnessed not only the establishment of significant bilateral relations with the US but potentially as impactful multilateral regional relations when Viet Nam joined its previous antagonist, the Association of South East Asian Nations, ASEAN.  Normalization also reduced diplomatic opposition by the US to Viet Nam and changed the tone of Vietnamese statements about the US.

 

For full normalization, further steps were necessary that required adjustment in Vietnam’s economic and legal system

March 11, 1997  Agreed to repay Saigon’s $140 million war debt (with the understanding that most of the money would provide for advanced study in the US by Vietnamese and with visiting professors from the US)

July 13, 2000  Bilateral trade agreement (BTA) signed,  effective December 10, 2001 

November 7, 2006   Joined the World Trade Organization

December 29, 2006  Permanent Normal Trade Relations established (a.k.a. Most Favored  Nation)

 

As a result today the US is Viet Nam’s largest export market totaling $93.43 billion in 2023.  For years Vietnamese manufactured clothing and shoes have been omnipresent in US stores, including all Samsung cell phones.   In January 2024 Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung reported US investment ranked 6th but in two years could be 1st.[10]  Direct US investment is $7 billion and it reaches around $9 billion if investment via a third country is added.   In 2023 Viet Nam had 21,900 students in the US, its largest destination, ranking them as the 5th biggest contingent worldwide.[11] Most are family or self funded.   The US is the fourth largest source of tourists, the biggest from outside of the region despite the distance, 717,000 in 2023.[12]

 

The 2020 census shows 2.3 million Vietnamese immigrants and descendants living in the US, by far the largest destination.  Seven hundred thousand to one million Overseas Vietnamese worldwide return every year.[13]  Some have found employment and spouses.  Others are enjoying retirement back home.  In the first years after the end of the war, the Vietnamese American community was violently anti-engagement.  Several Vietnamese Americans and a US professor were killed for political reasons.  Protests took place every time we sponsored delegations to the US and at shows of Vietnamese art organized by a veteran who was part of one of our twenty group trips.  While Vietnamese American leaders objected to Clinton’s normalization, they had no power to stop it.  Pop culture has seamlessly flowed between Viet Nam and Vietnamese Americans for decades.   A first Vietnamese American member of Congress has just been elected, a liberal Democrat.  

 

Although the US rejects totally any legal obligation to address the legacies of war, it has moved steadily to provide assistance to a growing number of the war’s victims.  That began with people who are still being injured by land mines and unexploded ordnance.  After years of denial, the US finally recognized the long term impact of defoliants like Agent Orange.  The initial step was remediation of locations where it has been shown Agent Orange was dumped and is still contaminating the soil.   The first location was the air base in Da Nang in central Viet Nam.  The second location is the former air base in Bien Hoa, near Ho Chi Minh City / Saigon.  USAID support for remediation accomplished by superheating the soil is estimated to be $100 million for Da Nang and $183 million for Bien Hoa.  It has been much harder to get the US to acknowledge responsibility for the probable human victims of the spraying.  Both US veterans and Vietnamese civilians have an array of medical problems associated with dioxin, an unintended and unnecessary component of Agent Orange.   The US accepts legal and medical responsibility for American veterans but not for the Vietnamese.   Dioxin is also the cause of a variety of multigenerational serious birth defects.   Aside from remediation work, assistance from USAID is provided through American and Vietnamese NGOs and medical institutions.

 

The number of US MIAs has been reduced substantially to 1,584.  The Vietnamese estimate their number of MIAs is around 250,000—100 times the original US total.  While acknowledging that inequity for years, the US has only begun to assist the Vietnamese by providing related data  (e.g. identifying sites of mass graves after combat) in the past two years.

 

What is responsible for the US and Viet Nam achieving in 20 years what the US and Cuba have not been able to accomplish in more than 60?

 

Veterans  3,403,000 U.S. military personnel were deployed to Southeast Asia 1964-1975   Some turned against the war - in country or after returning to the US.  Even those who didn’t had the country imprinted in their identity.  Multiple more Americans were involved in the antiwar movement, often reshaping lives and careers.   For both parts of the generation, normalization resonated positively.  Advocacy by pro-engagement veterans had a special impact on public opinion.

 

Business   After the embargo was lifted and relations normalized, US entrepreneurs and investors entered Vietnam.  The first decade was difficult for cultural and legal reasons.  Some gave up but others, as individuals or as corporations, are still there.  They sponsored an active lobbying group in Washington, the US-Vietnam Trade Council, that worked closely with US government agencies and Congress and they created robust US Chambers of Commerce in Ha Noi and Ho Chi Min City.

 

Geographic location of immigrants   The rapid outpouring of refugees required transit camps in the region and in the US.  Resettlement was structured through local church and social service sponsors dispersed around the country that had frequently been centers of peace activism.  Voluntary resettlement led to partial concentration in California, but the size of the state and its dominant liberal politics minimized political impact.  In addition, most immigrants were completely unfamiliar with how US politics worked, nor did they have financial resources already here.  Importantly, the US had no desire to fund them to organize and arm against their home country.    A negotiated bilateral Orderly Departure Program (ODP) assisted nearly 500,000 Vietnamese refugees to resettle in the US between 1980 and 1994.[14]   A total of “More than 1.3 million Vietnamese immigrants resided in the United States in 2022.”[15]  

 

Legal sequence   The US embargo of Vietnam followed the legal tradition of being entirely created by executive authority.  As a result  President Clinton could eliminate It as the first step to normalize relations.  Cuba’s embargo began in the same way but it became law when Congress adopted the Helms-Butrton legislation after the illegal flights by Brothers to the Rescue were shot down.  As a result, Presidents Obama and Castro were in the anomalous position of normalizing relations while still locked in an economic war.

 

China   Tragically millions of lives, environmental degradation and the loss of decades of economic development took place because the US failed to understand the fundamental reality of Viet Nam’s three thousand year struggle to be independent from China.  A primary reason for the US war was to stop the spread of Chinese dominance to Southeast Asia and no country was a bigger obstacle to that than Viet Nam.   For different reasons, Viet Nam and the US have a shared concern with China’s emerging hegemonism over the South China Sea, known as the East Sea by Vietnamese.  China’s internationally judged illegal assertion of a nine-dash line is the Monroe Doctrine on steroids.  From Viet Nam’s perspective. China is an existential threat to territorial integrity and economic development that must be both appeased and resisted.  Vietnamese contracted oil exploration is blocked by China and fishing boats have been attacked and seized.   From the US perspective, China is a strategic threat to the regional balance of power and freedom of navigation.[16]  The US and Viet Nam have elevated their relationship to Comprehensive Strategic Partners.   However Viet Nam has negotiated the same status with China, Russia, India, Japan and South Korea. 

 

Need for radical reform   There is an interaction of change between two countries seeking reconciliation.  Nguyen Van Linh and Vo Van Kiet chose change not continuity, despite their      Party’s historic achievement of freeing and unifying the country.  As leaders of generational transformation, they reflected and led a movement for substantial reform.  It was driven by internal needs and the collapse of a centrally planned economy, leading to runaway inflation, the failure of agricultural markets and inefficient state enterprise production.  Moreover, they understood that solving internal problems required less ideologically encumbered international relations to overcome encirclement and the cut-off of supplies from the Soviet Union.  They welcomed advice, investment and financial assistance from Japan, Singapore, Australia, Western Europe and the US, as well as from UN agencies and International Financial Institutions like the World Bank and the Asian Development Bank.

 

Hegemonic insularity  Like China with Viet Nam and Russia with Ukraine, it is hard for the US to accept psychologically, politically, economically and culturally a truly independent Cuba that organizes its domestic life and international relations without deference to its larger, wealthier, more powerful , and of course wiser neighbor.  Professor Louis Perez, a historian with Puerto Rican roots at the University of North Carolina, described the problem from the early days of US independence in his seminal essay “Cuba as an Obsessive Compulsive Disorder”. [17]

Vice-minister de Cossio captured the core issue at the conclusion of his key note address to this conference:

“Let us not fool ourselves. It is in that conflict that the fundamental contradiction of these almost 66 years is centered, that is, the recurrent inability of almost all U.S. governments in all periods to accept that Cuba is a sovereign state and has the right to be one.”

Unfortunately, while de Cossio’s position is morally righteous, US attitudes must be seen as a “given” by geography and history.  As courageously as Cuba has struggled to remove and protect itself from US dominance, it finds its survival and population ever more deeply entangled with and dependent on the US.  Foreign Minister Nguyen Co Thach told me, prior to being forced out of office by Chinese pressure, ‘Viet Nam’s biggest problem is that we cannot move the country.’   Cuba may find it more useful not to understand how Viet Nam achieved normalization with the US, but how it manages it with China.


A final personal note, I am not Cuba’s only American friend with deep ties to Viet Nam.  Senator Patrick Leahy and his former professional staff associate Tim Rieser, long standing supporters of full normalization with Cuba, played a decisive role in enabling US assistance for the victims of Agent Orange in Viet Nam.[18]

 

Updated with new conclusion 1/4/2025     This paper was shared with and corrected by Vietnamese friends.  However, the contents and conclusions are entirely my own.   Comments and questions welcome  jmcauliff@gmail.com   phone or whatsapp 1-917-859-9025   --  John McAuliff

 

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Appendix I

Normalization of Viet Nam - US Relations

Reflections from the Ground Up

The Contribution of NGOs and Peoples Organizations from 1975 to 1995

 

July 11, 2025 is the 30th anniversary of normalization of relations between the US and Viet Nam in 1995. Although after the war ended there was never a Cuba style strategy for regime change, the US maintained a punishing unilateral embargo until 1994 and took twenty years to diplomatically recognize the unified country.

In the first months after the war ended, polls showed majority public support for humanitarian aid to heal the wounds of war.  The Carter Administration appeared ready to normalize relations without conditions, but the Vietnamese linked it to assistance for reconstruction, a provision of the Paris Peace Agreement. The flow of boat people refugees and internment of South Vietnamese military and government officials changed the atmosphere in the US.

After Viet Nam responded to Khmer Rouge attacks across its border by forcing them out of power in Phnom Penh, the US provided military supplies and diplomatic support to their military campaign against Vietnamese troops. Washington also did nothing to oppose China's destructive invasion across Viet Nam's northern border.  Scholars describe this as the Third Indochina War, a proxy battle between superpowers with China and the US on one side and the Soviet Union on the other.

The unique aspect of this history is that although Viet Nam won the war, the US was not defeated in a larger sense, being still the pre-eminent world power. Normally the victor is more powerful than the vanquished and sets the terms for post-war normalization. In this case each side had to find its own reasons to overcome bitter memories of loss of friends and family.

Faced with these challenges non-governmental organizations in the US and mass organizations in Viet Nam found ways to work together, begin to address humanitarian problems and create a better climate for their governments to change policy. This started with traditional peace oriented religious NGOs and evolved through people to people dialog and exchanges to larger scale government supported university and aid programs. The foundation and business sectors assumed greater roles as the bilateral atmosphere improved.

Vietnam needed to rebuild from massive numbers of deaths and widespread destruction of its economy and infrastructure as well as find ways to neutralize and integrate people who had fought and governed for the other side. The US faced the problem of massive refugee resettlement and the trauma of veterans. Rational policy-making was hampered by resentment fueled myths of living POWs and renewed suffering and anger caused by land-mines, unexploded ordnance and Agent Orange.

Our webinars will enable practitioners from both countries to speak personally about a unique twenty year process in which two countries that suffered a long destructive war overcame painful political and emotional conflict. They will identify from their own experience how non-governmental and people-to-people organizations on both sides helped to establish the human and institutional groundwork for official relations.

Speaker bios  https://vnpeacecomm.blogspot.com/2020/07/webinars-on-normalization-of-us-viet.html

The American perspective

When: July 6, 2020  11:00 AM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

See (and share) it on line here    https://youtu.be/KLPGtx3oJ84 

Moderator:  John McAuliff (with Amb. Nguyen Tam Chien)

Overview of the history of normalization:  Murray Hiebert, Far Eastern Economic Review

NGOs (humanitarian aid):  David Elder, American Friends Service Committee

NGOs (normalization movement):  Susan Hammond, U.S.-Indochina Reconciliation Project

Washington dialog:  Bill Nell, Aspen Institute

Veterans:  John Terzano, Vietnam Veterans of America / Foundation

Minh Kauffman, Center for Educational Exchange with Viet Nam, Mennonite Central Comm

intermission  (music videos)

Foundations:  Mark Sidel, Ford Foundation

Business:  Virginia Foote, US-Vietnam Trade Council

Universities:  Allan Goodman, Institute of International Education

Culture:  David Thomas, Indochina Arts Partnership

Vietnamese Americans:  Hong-phong Pho

State Department:   Kenneth Quinn


The Vietnamese perspective

When: July 8, 2020  9:30 AM Viet Nam Time

See (and share) it on line here  https://youtu.be/H1DgEy91A_c

Presented by

The Vietnam Peace Commemoration Committee (VPCC)    director@ffrd.org  https://vnpeacecomm.blogspot.com/2021/10/history-and-future-of-vpcc.html

The Vietnam-USA Society (VUS)

 

 

Appendix II

Annual review of US-Viet Nam relations by the US Institute of Peace

First Plenary  October 10, 2024

https://youtu.be/yDsd1axbg2o?t=1754

9:00am - 10:15am ET: The U.S. Comprehensive Strategic Partnership with Vietnam after One Year

Ambassador George E. Moose, opening remarks  Acting President and CEO, U.S. Institute of Peace

Ambassador Nguyen Quoc Dung, keynote remarks  Vietnamese Ambassador to the U.S.

Ambassador Marc Knapper, keynote remarks (virtual)  U.S. Ambassador to Vietnam

Senator Chris Van Hollen (D-MD), keynote remarks (pre-recorded)   U.S. Senator from Maryland

Representative Young Kim (R-CA), keynote remarks (pre-recorded)U.S. Representative from California

 

Kit Norland, moderator  Diplomat, U.S Department of State (ret.)

Jed Royal   Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Indo-Pacific Security Affairs, U.S. Department of Defense

Phan Anh Son  President, Vietnam Union of Friendship Organizations

Michael Schiffer   Assistant Administrator of the Bureau for Asia, U.S. Agency for International Development

 

Second Plenary  October 11, 2024

https://youtu.be/Haol8H0o89A?t=378

 

9:00am - 10:15am ET: Launch of USIP Peaceworks Report on Reconciliation

Ambassador David Scheffer, moderator   Professor of Practice, Arizona State University

Andrew Wells-Dang   Senior Expert, Southeast Asia, U.S. Institute of Peace

Carl Stauffer   Senior Expert, Reconciliation, U.S. Institute of Peace

Ambassador Pham Lan Dung, discussant   Acting President, Diplomatic Academy of Vietnam (like ISRI)

John McAuliff, discussant  Executive Director & Founder, Fund for Reconciliation and Development 

 

 

Pathways to Reconciliation: How Americans and Vietnamese Have Transformed Their Relationship

By: Andrew Wells-Dang, Ph.D.;  Carl Stauffer, Ph.D. 

https://www.usip.org/sites/default/files/2024-10/pw-197_pathways-reconciliation-americans-vietnamese.pdf

 

Appendix III

Introduction to verbal summary

Thanks to CIPI and to Ambassador Cabanas.

You may remember my remarks last year about the connection between Cuban and Irish Nationalism in 19th Century New York.  My daughter gave me this t shirt from Sinn Fein in Belfast, Northern Ireland honoring Che Guevara and Bobby Sands

As I said from the floor on the first day, we face a critical situation in both countries

President Trump could create deep social and political problems for both the people of the US and of Cuba.  Or maybe he will want to become a contemporary Nixon in China or his friend Presidend Putin will suggest the benefits of reconciliation with Cuba.  We will begin to know in a month

On this trip I came first to Holguin and Santiago and then took the 16 hour bus trip to Havana.

I joined with Cuban friends in rotating six hour apagones every day in both cities.  I heard deep unhappiness with the situation of daily life, including the concerning and unexpected words “Hay Hambre”.  I did not see a country on the verge of collapse, but I did hear many calls for major reforms.

Hopefully this summary and excerpts from my paper will be useful to finding a positive way forward for both our countries.

 

Appendix IV

 

 

Cora Weiss, Kevin Bowen (in absentia) and John McAuliff receive Viet Nam’s national Medal of Friendship                    from General Secretary and then President To Lam in New York two days before his visit to Cuba.[19]



[1] https://youtu.be/yDsd1axbg2o?t=3476  Full USIP annual review of US-Viet Nam relations in Appendix II

[2] https://vnpeacecomm.blogspot.com/2024/12/the-oss-and-viet-minh.html

[3] https://www.sggp.org.vn/lan-bac-om-o-tan-trao-post222467.html

[4] https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/vietnamese-immigrants-united-states

[5] It can be read on line at https://vnpeacecomm.blogspot.com/2022/10/mcauliff-paper-for-usip-on.html

[6] https://vnpeacecomm.blogspot.com/2020/07/webinars-on-normalization-of-us-viet.html

[7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%90%E1%BB%95i_M%E1%BB%9Bi

[8] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nguy%E1%BB%85n_V%C4%83n_Linh

[9] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%B5_V%C4%83n_Ki%E1%BB%87t

[10] https://vietnamembassy-usa.org/relations/us-be-top-investor-vietnam-two-years

[11] https://vietnamnews.vn/society/1636623/vietnamese-students-at-us-colleges-universities-rise-by-5-7-in-2022-23.html

[12] https://vietnamtourism.gov.vn/en/post/19434#top

[13] https://en.vietnamplus.vn/workshop-discusses-attraction-of-ov-resources-for-tourism-development-post265863.vnp

[14] https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C6%B0%C6%A1ng_tr%C3%ACnh_Ra_%C4%91i_C%C3%B3_tr%E1%BA%ADt_t%E1%BB%B1

[15] https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/vietnamese-immigrants-united-states

[16] December 15, 2024  published by the United States Indo-Pacific Command   https://ipdefenseforum.com/2024/12/beijing-extends-its-coercive-campaign-against-neighbors/

[17] https://cubapeopletopeople.blogspot.com/2019/05/louis-perez-cuba-as-obsessive.html

[18] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/16/magazine/laos-agent-orange-vietnam-war.html

[19] https://vnpeacecomm.blogspot.com/2024/12/medal-of-friendship-for-bowen-weiss-and.html