Webinar on "Sir, No Sir"
Webinar on May Day 1971 Mass Arrests for Civil Disobedience
Mayday 1971: What it Meant Then and Now
April 29, 2021, 7 p.m. ET
View the webinar on youtube here https://youtu.be/ESlJhDS2UxI
Participants in the Mayday protests shared experiences in a zoom discussion on May 26, 2021 that can be viewed here https://youtu.be/MetZN1n477I
The chat is here.
Mayday was the largest civil disobedience protest of the American war in Indochina and in US history. More than 12,000 people were detained or arrested in Washington. This webinar features an account of how it was organized and what took place by participants and writers. Panelists will discuss its effect on the war and on the antiwar movement and reflect on comparisons with the January 6 violent assault on the Capitol.
Speakers
Lawrence Roberts, author "Mayday 1971"
L.A. Kauffman, author "Direct Action: Protest and the Reinvention of American Radicalism,"
Judy Gumbo, Mayday staff, author Yippie Girl
Jay Craven, national Mayday organizer, film maker
Phil Hirschkop, attorney
Sheila O'Donnell, private investigator
Bill Zimmerman, Illinois Mayday organizer, Medical Aid to Indochina
John McAuliff, Moderator, Indiana Mayday organizer
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Lawrence Roberts has been an editor of investigative journalism for most of his career. He's worked at the Washington Post, ProPublica, Bloomberg News, and the Hartford Courant, and was executive editor of the Huffington Post Investigative Fund. He was a leader on teams honored with three Pulitzer Prizes.
Roberts started out in the Pacific Northwest, where he helped create an alternative weekly, the Seattle Sun. He served as bureau chief for United Press International in Madrid, Spain, and taught journalism at Wesleyan University as a Koeppel Fellow. He lives in the Washington, D.C. area. Mayday 1971 is his first book. His website: www.lawrenceproberts.com
L.A. Kaufman is the author of acclaimed movement history, Direct Action: Protest and the Reinvention of American Radicalism, which opens with a penetrating essay about May Day 1971 and was reviewed by Rebecca Solnit for the New York Times as “the best overview of how protest works – when it does – and what it’s achieved over the past 50 years.”
Kaufman has spent more than 35 years immersed in grass roots movements, as historian, journalist, organizer and strategist. Her writings on organizing and social movement history have been published in The Guardian, The Nation, The Progressive, Mother Jones, The Village Voice, The Baffler and others. She was a central organizer of the two-year direct action campaign that saved more than 100 New York City community gardens from bulldozing in 1999 - and was the mobilizing coordinator of the massive anti-war protests of 2003-2004. More recently, she was a key organizer of successful campaigns to save two iconic New York Public Libraries from being demolished and replaced by luxury towers.
Phil Hirschkop is the lawyer who managed overall legal actions and strategies for May Day 1971. Hirschkop "started his career at the top" by taking on Mildred and Richard Loving as clients in a landmark case (Loving v. Virginia) that ended the enforcement of state bans on interracial marriage – and was made into the Academy Award nominated film, Loving. The ACLU assigned the case to him and fellow volunteer cooperating attorney Bernard Cohen who shared the oral argument for the petitioners before the United States Supreme Court.
Hirschkop went on to argue two additional cases before the Supreme Court in the 1970s. His other clients have included Martin Luther King, Jr. H. Rap Brown, Norman Mailer and "numerous anti-war protesters during the 1960s and 1970s." Hirschkop has served on the ACLU's national Board of Directors and as Chair of the ACLU of Virginia, which he helped found in 1969. He also served as executive director of the Penal Reform Institute. In the 1960s, after the McCarthy era, he served as the vice chair of the National Committee to Abolish the House Un-American Activities Committee, which now is the Defending Dissent Foundation.
Sheila O’Donnell is a long-term peace and justice advocate who is a licensed CA Private Investigator; her career was informed by her anti-war activism. She was a partner in ACE INVESTIGATIONS and was involved in major cases throughout her forty-five year career both nationally and internationally with trial preparation her specialty. She taught workshops for many years on Common Sense Security to teach activists how to keep themselves and their projects safe from those who would stop their resistance.
She has been on many Death Penalty teams as an Investigator and Mitigation expert; her first [1978] ended with the release of Johnny Harris who was imprisoned on trumped up charges in Mississippi. She co-founded PUBLIC EYE magazine to expose government misconduct and the rise of the right in the mid-seventies; the magazine is currently published by POLITICAL RESEARCH ASSOCIATES and can be found on their webpage. She co-founded another magazine, PROPAGANDA REVIEW, that ceased publication after several successful years.
In 1990 she became a facilitator at the Center for Attitudinal Healing with her first bout of cancer
and in 2000 co-founded an ongoing group, Women Living Well with Metastases and is thriving with no evidence of disease after three recurrences. She elected for amputation of her left arm in 2019 and is now a Certified Peer Counselor with the AMPUTEE COALITION.
She co-founded community radio station, KWMR-FM in West Marin, CA that is in year twenty-one with all volunteer programmers; this started in response to a wild land fire leaving residents of the
rural area with no information as the fire raged taking homes and forest lands. She is happily retired living the good life in northern California.
Award-winning filmmaker, teacher and impresario Jay Craven participated in the December 1970 Peoples Peace treaty delegation to Vietnam – and subsequently helped organize the May Day 1971 antiwar civil disobedience demonstrations in Washington, D.C. where nearly 13,000 people were arrested. He has also been active on issues of civil rights, nuclear power and U.S. interventions in Central America. His 1980 documentary film, “Dawn of the People,” chronicles Nicaragua’s National Literacy Campaign and his most recent narrative picture, “Martin Eden” (2021) is based on Jack London’s autobiographical novel of the same name.
Judy Gumbo is an original member of two late 1960s satirical protest groups - the Yippies and W.I.T.C.H. Judy attended and worked at the Chicago Conspiracy Trial where Yippie founder and Chicago defendant Abbie Hoffman told her she “should have been indicted.” No women were. She briefly managed the defendants Trial office, then became responsible for distributing Trial transcripts to national and international media. Judy is one of a very few North Americans to visit the former North Vietnam while the war still raged. She returned to travel around the United States organizing against the war and for the liberation of women.
In 1972, FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover named Judy “the most vicious, the most anti-American and the most dangerous to the internal security of the United States.” Judy’s home was illegally burglarized seven times in one year by FBI agents who also installed two tracking devices on her car, one of which she found. With that, surveillance ceased.
Judy visited Vietnam in 1971, 2017 and in 2019, when she was awarded a medal by the Vietnamese government for her anti-war activities.
Judy spent the majority of her professional career as an award-winning fundraiser for Planned Parenthood. She is the widow of Yippie founder Stew Albert with whom she has a daughter, and of David Dobkin, founder of Berkeley Cohousing. Judy is now married to Art Eckstein, distinguished professor and author, among others, of “Bad Moon Rising: How the Weather Underground Beat the FBI and Lost the Revolution.” Judy likes to say the FBI brought them together.
Find Judy Gumbo on her website www.yippiegirl.com or on Facebook.
Bill Zimmerman organized for, participated in, and was
arrested at Mayday ’71. In 1972-73, he built and led Medical Aid for Indochina.
In North Viet Nam in May 1972, he filmed civilian bomb damage and made the
documentary, Village By Village. In 1974-75, he helped lead the Indochina
Peace Campaign. After the war, he managed Tom Hayden’s 1976 campaign for the US
Senate, then began a long career as a political campaign manager and media
consultant serving progressive candidates and nonprofits nationwide. He is the
author of Troublemaker: A Memoir from the Frontlines of the
Sixties.
John McAuliff is the executive director of the Fund for Reconciliation and Development and coordinator of the Vietnam Peace Commemoration Committee. As a student at Carleton College, he organized support for the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee and participation in the Mississippi Summer Project of 1964. After serving in the Peace Corps in Peru, he became the first President of the Committee of Returned Volunteers, leading its participation in the Vietnam anti-war movement, including the demonstration at the Chicago Democratic Convention. He represented CRV in national anti-war coalitions and the U.S coalition at international conferences in Sweden. For ten years he directed the Indochina Program in the Peace Education Division of the American Friends Service Committee, traveling on its behalf to Hanoi with a delegation that arrived on April 30, 1975, the last day of the war. In 1985 he founded the Fund for Reconciliation and Development to continue his AFSC work for normalization of relations with Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. After that was accomplished in 2005, he refocused most of his work on a similar goal with Cuba. He was "detained" at the March on the Pentagon and the Mayday civil disobedience action and while demonstrating against George Wallace during his Presidential campaign in New York.
Resources
Mayday 1971
Direct Action
Protest and the Reinvention of American Radicalism
by L.A. Kauffman, Verso Books
excerpt on Mayday here
https://longreads.com/2017/01/20/in-1971-the-people-didnt-just-march-on-washington-they-shut-it-down/
Troublemaker
A Memoir for the Front Lines of the Sixties
by Bill Zimmerman
with a chapter on Mayday
"A riveting book." -- Dan Ellsberg
"How 1971’s Mayday actions rattled Nixon and helped keep Vietnam from becoming a forever war" Unparalleled in its size and variety of actions, the last and largest national anti-Vietnam War demonstration offers lessons for challenging U.S. militarism today.
by Robert Levering in Waging Nonviolence
"May Day 1971 Was a Day Against War"
by Steve Early in Jacobin
The First On-Air Original Broadcast by NPR was about Mayday, listen here
"Protesters shut down D.C. traffic before. It helped end the Vietnam War — and reshaped American activism" by Hannah Natanson, The Washington Post
Mayday Excerpt from Navigating the Zeitgeist by Irish writer Helena Sheehan, click here
https://vnpeacecomm.blogspot.com/2021/04/helena-sheehan-writes-about-mayday.html
May Day organizing film used for promoting participation in the event, click here
https://vimeo.com/user13347089/review/455214871/ab24692c94
"May 3, 1971 – The Day They Arrested 7,000 Demonstrators In Washington D.C."
NBC Nightly News (audio only) Gordon Skene Sound Collection
https://pastdaily.com/2019/05/03/may-3-1971-the-day-they-arrested-7000-demonstrators-in-washington-d-c/
May Day Raw
Compilation on vimeo of contemporaneous news accounts and later interviews, John Kerry's testimony at the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, click here
https://vimeo.com/ondemand/mayday1971raw/243783364
Personal Stories
Peter Weyland
Mason Neck VA
Drove up from Hampden-Sydney College. My Mom was
CIA and personnel supervisor in charge of SE Asia dropping operatives behind the
lines. I didn't realize until years later. Both my parents were unfavorable
towards the war. My Mom lost a # of people.
Rick Halperin
Dallas TX
I was an undergrad at George Washington Univ. during the tumultuous years 1967-1968, 1969-1971 (I studied in Paris 1968-69)...From the march on the Pentagon in Oct. '67, through the Nov. '69 Moratorium, the May riots of 1970 following the Kent State killings to the May Day riots and arrests...I would not trade my experience in and out of the classroom for anything in the world.
I bring those days and my own experiences into my own classroom teaching today, and am saddened, but not surprised, that the overwhelming majority of my students have had no knowledge of those years, and have never even heard of such defining events at the 1968 Orangeburg Massacre in S.C., the My Lai Massacre, or the killings at both Kent State and Jackson State.
It is a constant reminder of how each successive generation of young people has been, and is being, academically failed by having no (mandatory) exposure to the pedagogy of Human Rights education in this country.
I am blessed to be the Director of our university's undergraduate Human Rights program, one of only 7 (!!) such programs in the USA. There are zero (!!) Ph.D. programs in Human Rights in the US today.
Dr. Rick Halperin, Director, Southern Methodist University (SMU) Human Rights Program
Charles/Pauline Sullivan
Washington DC
I think there were three movements that resulted in our arrests in May Day. They were the Vatican Council in the early sixties, the civil rights movement and, of course, the anti-war movement. Charlie was first stationed as a priest in Demopolis, Alabama, which is very near Selma and it was in 1966 right after the March. Pauline was a stationed as a nun at St. Stephen's school which was In "the Reservation" in Minneapolis. Pauline played a role in the start-up of the American Indian Movement.
When they met in 1969, Charlie was working on a revolution in the Catholic Church. Pauline replied that she was interested in the "other" revolution---the revolution in the world!
In 1970, they left Minnesota in a $400 VW van (that broke down a lot) to seek their place in the revolution. They lived in the van for over a year, travelling to Mexico and Canada as well as involved in demonstrations throughout the United State.
They also visited people like Dorothy Day. This visit in New York City was in early September, 1971, because we had to return to DC for our May Day trials. While waiting for our trials, we lobbied against the military draft and at night in our van parked on Capitol Hill, we listened to the VW radio report on the uprising at Attica.
We had briefly been involved in Texas in our travels, but decided then to return to San Antonio and get totally immersed in prison reform. We started in 1972 with a bus service for families to visit their loved ones in the prison system and started organizing these families on the buses into an organization we called CURE.
In 1974, we moved to Austin and CURE became a statewide organization. In 1985, we moved to Washington and expanded CURE nationally. In 2001, we had our first international conference and now have a strong presence in Africa and Asia.
Pauline was right in that our commitment to revolution in the world and, as you can see, started in a way with May Day and still continues even though we are in our eighties. Charlie
PS. We are still very Catholic, but not revolutionary Catholics. We have enough to keep us busy with prison reforms!
We are ever reminded about the quote from George Bernard Shaw " When I die, I want to be all used up!" cure@curenational.org
April 30, 1975: Eyewitness Accounts of the End of the War
When the war was over
Personal experiences
Watch the video of the complete zoom by clicking here https://youtu.be/0u7Ae24LLzk
John McAuliff will show slides from his trip to Hanoi for the American Friends Service Committee and the Indochina Peace Campaign
Nayan Chanda, former editor, Far Eastern Economic Review, will speak of his experience in Saigon.
Claudia Krich, American Friends Service Committee, also will speak about Saigon
Nayan Chanda, is
Associate Professor of International Relations at Ashoka University.
He began his
career as a lecturer in History at North Bengal University and later conducted
research on contemporary Indochina in Jadavpur University and University of
Paris. His deepening interest in contemporary history led him to wartime Saigon
as the bureau chief of the Hong Kong-based magazine the Far Eastern Economic
Review and report on the fall of Saigon in 1975. After two decades as its
correspondent based in Hong Kong and Washington DC he was appointed editor of
the magazine - the only Asian editor in its half century.
Prior to his
editorship of the magazine Chanda was a Senior Fellow at the Carnegie Endowment
for International Peace in Washington DC and also served as editor of the Asian
Wall Street Journal Weekly. In 2001
Chanda was appointed Director of Publications at the Yale Center
for the Study of Globalization at Yale
University. In 2002 he founded YaleGlobal Online and edited the online journal
until 2015.
Chanda is the
author of Bound Together: How Traders, Preachers, Adventurers and Warriors
Shaped Globalization (Yale ,2007)
and Brother Enemy: the War After the
War (Harcourt, 1986). Bound Together has been translated in eight languages. Chanda has
co-edited and contributed chapters to
over a dozen books including Encyclopedia of Global Studies (2012). His most
recent co-authored publication is The Future of East Asia
(Palgrave/Macmillan, 2018). Recently Chanda has published his first children's
book Around the World With a Chilli, (Pratham Books, 2016).
He has been
published in the New York Times, Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, the
Diplomat and other international newspapers. He writes regular columns for Times of India, and Global Asia. He is a founding member of the editorial
board of Global Asia and New Global
Studies journal and of the Sage Encyclopedia of Global Studies. He has served
as a member of the Abe Fellowship
Committee and Shorenstein award committee.
Chanda did his BA
(Hons in History) from Presidency College, Kolkata and obtained a First Class
Master's degree in History from Jadavpur University, winning the University
Gold Medal. Nayan Chanda is the winner of the 2005 Shorenstein Award for
Journalism presented for lifetime achievement.
From March of 1973 to July of 1975, Claudia Krich and her husband Keith Brinton, were co-directors of the American Friends Service Committee humanitarian program in Viet Nam. Keith had also been part of the program there from 1966 to 1970. Their work included running a large civilian physical rehabilitation center in Quang Ngai, in central Viet Nam, researching and reporting on the war and wartime culture in Viet Nam, and hosting visiting dignitaries and journalists. The program also maintained an office in Saigon, with two representatives there. Claudia and the team left Quang Ngai in March, 1975, and were witnesses to the change of government in Saigon at the end of April. After returning from Viet Nam on July 4, 1975, Claudia and Keith went on a national speaking tour for the AFSC. She later worked for some months at the AFSC main office in Philadelphia. She has returned to Viet Nam twice, and has stayed in contact with Vietnamese and American friends there.
Claudia had been active in AFSC activities since high school. She was chosen by AFSC to participate in a two month international work camp in Sweden in 1968. In 1972 she again represented AFSC as the co-director of another summer work camp, in New Bedford, Massachusetts. There she met the other co-director, Keith Brinton, whom she married.
Claudia majored in Spanish Literature at the University of California at Santa Cruz, and also studied at the University of Mexico in Mexico City, at the University of Madrid in Spain, at the Sorbonne in Paris, and at the University of New Hampshire at Durham. She was a bilingual teacher and created and directed a large elementary school chorus. Claudia and Keith currently live in Davis, California. They have three daughters and four grandchildren. She has written a book based on the months around April 30 in Saigon, and it is in the process of publication with an editor at a major publishing house.
John McAuliff is the executive director of the Fund for
Reconciliation and Development and coordinator of the Vietnam Peace
Commemoration Committee. As a student at Carleton College, he organized
support for the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee and participation in
the Mississippi Summer Project of 1964. After serving in the Peace Corps
in Peru, he became the first President of the Committee of Returned Volunteers,
leading its participation in the Vietnam anti-war movement, including the
demonstration at the Chicago Democratic Convention. He represented CRV in
national anti-war coalitions and the U.S coalition at international conferences
in Sweden. For ten years he directed the Indochina Program in the Peace
Education Division of the American Friends Service Committee, traveling on its
behalf to Hanoi with a delegation that arrived on April 30, 1975, the last day
of the war. In 1985 he founded the Fund for Reconciliation and
Development to continue his AFSC work for normalization of relations with
Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. After that was accomplished in 1995, he
refocused most of his work on a similar goal with Cuba. He was
"detained" at the March on the Pentagon and the Mayday civil
disobedience action and while demonstrating against George Wallace during his
Presidential campaign in New York.
Resources
Brother Enemy: The War After the War
by Nayan Chanda
Reaching the other side: The journal of an American who stayed to witness Vietnam's postwar transition
by Earl Martin
The Last Helicopter
by Jim Laurie
Voice of Vietnam Announcing the End of the War, broadcast from Havana
https://shortwavearchive.com/archive/voice-of-vietnam-announcing-the-fall-of-saigon-april-30-1975
Edited Chat from the Webinar
09:36:57 From John McAuliff to Michael S Goodman(Direct Message) : did you find last night interesting?
09:59:02 From Michael S Goodman to John McAuliff(Direct Message) : Good morning! yes, I enjoyed it very much. I have memories of a lot of those events, even though I was only 16 at the time!
10:01:10 From Alex Knopp to John McAuliff(Direct Message) : Nice job last night on Mayday . Alex
10:06:31 From Michael S Goodman to Everyone : Actually, shortwave was fairly popular at the time.
10:09:03 From Tom Gardner to Everyone : Folks might be interested in the conference on the Ellsberg papers going on at UMass Amherst today and tomorrow, organized by Chris Appy. Tomorrow at 1:30 is a conversation between Ellsberg and Edward Snowden, moderated by Amy Goodman. Free and open to all. Registration required. https://www.umass.edu/ellsberg/conference/schedule/
10:15:03 From Michael S Goodman to Everyone : They weren't expecting a complete victory until several months later.
10:22:56 From Michael S Goodman to Everyone : Was there any mention of the circumstances surrounding the first Mayday?
10:28:46 From Gavin Frome to John McAuliff(Direct Message) : Those are incredible slides! I hope you will donate a copy to an archive somewhere.
10:52:08 From Michael S Goodman to Everyone : That's right. Bill Clinton was there in 1995.
10:53:26 From Tom Gardner to Everyone : The Vietnamese were so sophisticated in diplomacy.
11:01:25 From Michael S Goodman to Everyone : Working with the AFSC, weren't you concerned about handling guns and weapons?
11:10:18 From Michael S Goodman to Everyone : "arrondissement" - very colonial term !
11:13:32 From Alex Knopp to Everyone : Thanks for this fascinating tour of the events of 1975! Regards, Alex Knopp
11:13:36 From Claudia Krich Krich to Everyone : We have no guns, no arms, and never allowed weapons into our rehab center. In Saigon we accepted guns and piled them and helped move them to safety.
11:13:45 From Claudia Krich Krich to Everyone : Sorry- I meant “had”
11:14:53 From Claudia Krich Krich to Everyone : We did that only on the first day, on April 29th. (sic 30th)
11:15:48 From Michael S Goodman to Everyone : Interesting the level of hostility that existed between Vietnam and China!
11:15:51 From Gavin Frome to John McAuliff(Direct Message) : How long did the speakers stay in country? What were the forces that led them to depart?
11:16:08 From Laurent Gilbert to John McAuliff(Direct Message) : Will there be further trips to Vietnam where other like us could join in?
11:17:01 From Laurent Gilbert to John McAuliff(Direct Message) : How do we get your newsletter?
11:17:51 From Gavin Frome to Everyone : How long did the speakers stay in country? What were the forces that led them to depart?
11:19:39 From Michael S Goodman to Everyone : The ken Burns "documentary" was awful.
11:21:37 From Gwendolyn Simmons to John McAuliff(Direct Message) : I just tried to register for the U Mass conference and was unable to register!
11:22:27 From Tom Gardner to Everyone : I think UMASS is also live streaming it on You Tube.
11:23:17 From Tom Gardner to Everyone : “Truth, Dissent and the Legacy of Daniel Ellsberg” is the title if you search for it.
11:23:57 From Claudia Krich Krich to Everyone : Gavin——we left because we really had nothing to do. We had successfully turned over our rehab center to the new government, and we were essentially unemployed, and were running out of money.
11:33:18 From Gwendolyn Simmons to Everyone : I so enjoyed everyone’s presentation and photos. Thank you so much. I hope I can travel to Vietnam on your next trip. I went on an AFSC Delegation led by Sophie and Paul Quinn Judge. we were in the Region for 6 weeks and traveled by road from North to South. We were the first Americans to enter Cambodia after the fall of Pol Pot. I want to know how the Unified Vietnamese government carried out the peace. What have you who have visited seen over the years! Zoharah
11:35:55 From Michael S Goodman to Everyone : ...and the US always refused to accept the legitimacy of the government installed by the Vietnamese after Pol Pot.
11:38:27 From Tom Gardner to Everyone : Wow, Zoharah, I didn’t know (or forgot) that you were on that trip. Would love to hear more sometime. My only trips were 2009 and 2012. On the 2012 trip when I brought students we had a warm greeting from Mme. Nguen Thi Binh and the Friendship Committee. We focused on the effects of Agent Orange on that trip.
11:39:12 From Bonnie Prest Thal to Everyone : Excellent and so informative to someone less informed. Thank you and bless you. Peace.
11:39:40 From Michael S Goodman to Everyone : OFAC doesn't like to issue those licenses
11:45:25 From Claudia Krich Krich to Everyone : Hi Jim!
11:45:37 From Merriam Ansara to Everyone : Michael - they do issue those licenses and have to every other telecommunications platform imaginable: facebook, google, WhatsApp, AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, you name it. It would be good if someone could investigate why it is that Zoom does not have a license, whether their decision or the US government's.
11:46:17 From Michael S Goodman to Everyone : Probably the Government's. Do you still work at RHC?
11:47:02 From Merriam Ansara to Everyone : As most of you likely know, the owner of Zoom is a Chinese engineer who immigrated to the United States and first worked at Cisco. When they did not fund his idea for Zoom, he started his own company. There is no evidence that he is particularly political. AND NO Michael, I do not think it is the US government -- why would they refuse that license and grant all of the others.
11:47:26 From Merriam Ansara to Everyone : Gavin, of course. merri.ansara@gmail.com
Chat from My Lai Webinar
12:47:41 From John
McAuliff to Everyone : Program on the 53d anniversary of
the massacre
Moderator John
McAuliff
Professor / author Howard Jones
Vietnam helicopter pilot Lawrence Wilkerson
Film maker Connie Field
Composer Jonathan Berger
Kronos Quartet”s David Harrington
Music Performer Van-Anh Vo
12:48:19 From John
McAuliff to Everyone : https://tinyurl.com/mylaiweb
13:02:15 From William
Ayers to
Everyone : Great to see you. Greetings from Chicago. Thank you for this.
13:03:25 From ron
schulz to All panelists : Hello to all yas.
13:03:57 From John
Falchi to All panelists : This is a very important
event to commemorate. In San Diego we did
this for its 50th anniversary with an interactive art exhibit an 3 speaking
programs by the Veterans for Peace. John P. Falchi-San Diego.,
13:04:45 From Kenneth
Mayers to Everyone : Greetings from Santa Fe, NM
13:04:48 From ron
schulz to Everyone : Been looking forward to this.
14:06:14 From Bill
Shugarts to All panelists : Beautiful & powerful
documentary!! Bill Shugarts, Vietnam
Veteran (1969-1970), Americal Division
14:09:14 From John
Falchi to Everyone : What a wonderful musical
representation of the My Lai Massacre!
John P. Falchi of the Hugh Thompson chapter of the Veterans for Peace.
14:09:57 From
Jonathan Berger to John Falchi and all panelists : Thank you,
John
14:10:00 From AMY
Blumenshine to All panelists : Thank you. It worked out fine.
14:10:43 From Bonnie
Prest-Thal to Everyone : Profoundly moving, musical,
impactful. Bless you, John FRD.
14:11:00 From Sylvia
Kaplan to Everyone : It was incredible with all the
technical glitches.
14:12:04 From John
Bancroft to All panelists : The film was so powerful —
the box on the screen was insignificant!
14:13:16 From
Christopher Cruise to All panelists : Howard thanks for the book,
which I have in both hardback and audio!
14:14:38 From Harry
Haines to All panelists : I must leave to teach a
class. This was deeply moving. Many thanks. I was in uniform when the reports
appeared. My buddies and I wept over this. Hugh Thompson was a very good man.
14:18:23 From Milla
Riggio to Everyone : This story and this film raises
big questions about our responsibilities as Americans. We like to forget these kinds of histories —
the sure knowledge that this massacre was the rule rather than the exception.
How do we live with that? How do we
atone for it without becoming in our turn self-righteous.
14:24:28 From Bill
Shugarts to All panelists : Howard-your books is
Excellent!! Bill Shugarts, wshugarts@verizon.net Have some questions from serving with
Americal. Thanks!! Bill
14:26:41 From ron
schulz to Everyone : American exceptionalism is simple
smug self ignorance.
14:28:35 From Bill
Shugarts to All panelists : Sadly, this is us.
14:36:06 From John
Falchi to Everyone : What caused the government's attitude
toward the action of Hugh Thompson at My
Lai to change many years later? John P.
Falchi
14:36:38 From Laurent
Gilbert to Everyone : Was this recorded so that we could
refer people to view this again. Could it be placed on YouTube? Already done,
link at top
14:36:53 From Bill
Shugarts to All panelists : How did you get the idea to
do this "moving opera"?
14:39:53 From Harold
Appel to
Everyone : Thanks for this, so much. Makes me remember more vividly why
I was a CO back then. Harold Appel Vets for Peace, chapter 34.
14:39:57 From John
McAuliff to Jackie Barshak and all panelists : I didn't
discover it until I put it on my phone to see what the audience was seeing
14:40:06 From Dat
Duthinh to All panelists : How can we see the opera?
14:44:56 From Ronald
Mendel to Everyone : I think Phil Ochs might have been
provoked by the My Lai massacre to write "White Boots Marchin' in a Yellow Land".
14:46:40 From Bill
Shugarts to All panelists : Very powerful words!!
14:50:36 From Lubna
Qureshi to All panelists : Professor Jones, what is your
opinion of Trent Angers’s biography of Hugh Thompson? Thank you.
14:51:39 From Laurent
Gilbert to Everyone : Will this program be able to be
viewed again and if so, how?
14:52:51 From Dick
Berliner to Everyone : I went My Lai in November 1967
soon after Seymour Hersh broke the story
through Dispatch News Service International. All we can observe was the
grief a few survivors. There was no way
to know or describe what had happened there
at that time. This film is very
important in filling the gap.
14:52:51 From Stephen
Spitz to
Everyone : My favorite Phil Ochs song was I Ain’t Marching Anymore. I
drove Phil from the Lyndon Johnson Unbirthday Party during the 1968 Democratic
Convention in my home town of Chicago to his hotel. Four years later, I drove
Phil from a benefit concert for George McGovern to the music school of the
University of Michigan so he could remix his new lyrics to “Here’s to the State
of Richard Nixon” to the music of “Here’s to the State of Mississippi.” During
that trip, we reminisced about the August 1968 event in Chicago. Phil said:
“That was the highlight of my life.” Four years later he sadly took his own
life
14:53:50 From Linda
Ray to
Everyone : Yes, good point Connie regarding the power of art and story
to go to deeper places within humans.
14:57:20 From Bill
Shugarts to All panelists : Michael Bilton & Kevin
Sims Book-"Four Hours at My Lai" details what Mr. Jones is talking
about.
14:59:30 From David
Harrington to All panelists : YES!!!
15:04:29 From Michael
Bilton to All panelists : It has been a fascinating
experience watching and listening to everyone.
I made a film called Four Hours in My Lai in 1988/89 which won an Emmy
and a BAFTA in the UK. We then started
researching a book - again called Four Hours in My Lai, which was published in
1993. Hugh and Larry had by then become friends because we had put them back in
touch with each other after losing touch some 15 years previously. We had tracked Hugh down to Louisiana in 1988
where he had hidden himself away. He was
surprised to hear from us and I think because we were British he agreed to meet
me. He was a quiet and amazing man, and
showed extraordinary humility. But he
also felt the pain of being rejected by his own comrades in the US Army. A
truly extraordinary individual. I
returned to My Lai, where we had filmed in 1988, with Larry in 2007. He and his wife by then had by then become
become good friends. We spent a week with them a year before Larry died. I will never forget them.
15:09:58 From John Fournelle to
Everyone : There was a video made by a French videographer, D. Maudinet,
called “The Ghosts of My Lai” with Director Jean Crepu. Old contact (not sure
if current) is contact@javafilms.fr . I have a copy
15:10:11 From David
Harrington to All panelists : Sorry that I must leave
15:10:44 From
Jonathan Berger to Everyone : Thank you Michael Bilton for your
important and wonderful work
15:17:22 From Karin
San Juan to All panelists : Kanopy is how colleges and
universities access films
15:17:35 From Bill
Shugarts to All panelists : Would you show it to the new
Army Museum? I am a docent there and
know who to contact.
15:18:21 From Bonnie
Prest-Thal to Everyone : John, can you put in the website
to donate to FRD and what is the address of the blog?
15:19:12 From Karin
San Juan to All panelists : also each state has a
Humanities Center funded by the NEH, in Minnesota we have the MN Humanities
Center and the Veterans Voices program
15:19:12 From
Gretchen Eick to All panelists : and the National War College,
not just West Point
15:20:09 From Bill
Shugarts to All panelists : Would you want to present the
film to a high school audience in Denmark who are studying the Vietnam war each
year.
15:22:00 From Karin
San Juan to All panelists : intergenerational two-way
dialogue is so important for gleaning the lessons of war…
15:22:15 From
Elizabeth Lee to All panelists : I remember it as it was
yesterday and I was affected dramatically and would recommend it highly for schools
15:23:36 From Karin
San Juan to All panelists : Van Anh gives a very
humanistic view!
15:23:38 From
Elizabeth Lee to All panelists : Absolutely thank you
15:24:37 From Van
Ahn Vo
to Everyone : Thanks Karin and
all of you who are participating in the screening and talk.
15:24:41 From
Elizabeth Lee to All panelists : his name please
15:25:03 From Cathryn
Chudy to
All panelists : Bless and thank all of you for this!
15:25:04 From Milla
Riggio to Everyone : The Battle of Elah is a mainstream
movie that deals with a similar, though much lower key situation.
15:25:12 From
Jonathan Berger to Everyone : Thank you to all. Peace.
15:25:39 From Karin
San Juan to All panelists : So much great programming
from VPCC, you guys are on fire! in a good way...
15:26:26 From Milla
Riggio to Everyone : In the Valley of Elah. My mistake.
15:27:20 From John
Kent to
Everyone : Thank you all. My Lai was part of my schooling re: what the
US Government is capable of and that behavior continues to this day.
15:27:24 From Amy
Merrill to Everyone : Wonderful program. Thanks
everyone!
15:27:36 From Stephen
Spitz to
Everyone : Thanks!
15:27:44 From Harold
Appel to
Everyone : Hi, Jogn
15:27:48 From Kenneth
Mayers to Everyone : Terrific — both the film and the
webinar
15:27:53 From Hồng-Phong
Phó to
All panelists : Thank you, John.
15:27:54 From Bill
Shugarts to All panelists : WEII DONE!!MANY thanks!!
15:28:09 From
Gretchen Eick to All panelists : thank you all.
15:28:25 From Elaine
Butler McCarthy to All panelists : Thank you so much for the
whole program…. moving as well as informative
15:28:50 From Mary
Kambic to Everyone : Thanks again or a great program!
Makes me happy to have been an activist and still fighting!
15:28:53 From Ronald
Haeberle to Everyone : Great program!